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Post by turrican9 on Jun 26, 2021 12:12:17 GMT
So I just bought myself a The C64 and a The VIC20. So far I am really happy and impressed with them.
One issue for me though. I copied the whole game base library of games over to my USB stick and encountered many games that would not work. I know many of them need accurate disk access in order to load. And from my research I know it's possible to rename the files an so on to make them use accurate disk access. Same issue with many demos aswell.
However, with 10K + games this is a hassle. Why no option in the menus of The C64/The VIC20 to enable/disable accurate disk access? If not, is there a utility that will rename whole libraries of games without the need to do each of them individually?
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Post by vic2020ian on Jun 27, 2021 15:09:52 GMT
Have a look at PCU Game Manager.
You can set that flag in there for non working games and try it with run game. If it works you can export it.
Right now I am doing the Vic20 collection and have all the carts bar one working.
I think you will be pleasantly surprised in release 1.5.0 in the next few weeks.
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Post by turrican9 on Jun 27, 2021 19:10:13 GMT
Have a look at PCU Game Manager. You can set that flag in there for non working games and try it with run game. If it works you can export it. Right now I am doing the Vic20 collection and have all the carts bar one working. I think you will be pleasantly surprised in release 1.5.0 in the next few weeks. I just installed project carousel USB. I must say I am really impressed. I can finally run a bunch of games, both VIC20 and C64 games from the carousel without all kinds of hassle. So many games included in this. I especially had trouble getting VIC20 games to work without this PCU Game manager. I cannot wait for the new version that is coming. I am impressed that I feel almost no input lag compared to real C64s. If I try Vice on PC with a USB Joystick there is bad input lag. I think they have done a really nice job with these. And the PCU Game manager is making it even more awesome. Not sure I will use my real C64s/Vic20 much more now
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Post by vic2020ian on Jun 27, 2021 22:25:09 GMT
I am working on a Vic20 addon pack...2286 games migrated from Gamebase...not everything works (It didn't in Gamebase).
I am working through it this week to get it tested.
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Post by turrican9 on Jun 28, 2021 13:21:29 GMT
I am working on a Vic20 addon pack...2286 games migrated from Gamebase...not everything works (It didn't in Gamebase). I am working through it this week to get it tested. Very nice. Will this be included in the new PCA or as a separate thing?
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Post by vic2020ian on Jun 28, 2021 14:44:30 GMT
I am working on a Vic20 addon pack...2286 games migrated from Gamebase...not everything works (It didn't in Gamebase). I am working through it this week to get it tested. Very nice. Will this be included in the new PCA or as a separate thing? That is up to Nick but either way it will be available soon. It will either make the main PCU bigger or be a separate zip file to put in Carousel\games folder. Ironing out some issues with non working games. e.g. Scott Adams adventures at the moment.
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Post by c64stuff on Jun 29, 2021 16:44:50 GMT
I think it's cool you have such a passion for Vic20 games. I have a passion for any retro system, but growing up with the 64 and then Amiga I of course really appreciate seeing any commodore computer pushed to it's limits. Kind of off topic but there's a guy on YouTube called Sharopolis who does some excellent videos on games that push the limits of retro consoles and computers. His video on games pushing the limits of the Sinclair Zx80 and zx81 is so interesting I must have watched it five times already. Towards the end of the video he even covers color games for these primitive black and white computers that use a new hardware addon to allow color. It's fascinating stuff. He also did some great ones on the C64 and pretty much every old computer or console. Modern movie like games bore me. I love seeing what they can squeeze out of old systems, and in fact prefer old arcade and computer games over anything the big three console makers have in games these days.
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Post by vic2020ian on Jun 29, 2021 21:10:12 GMT
I think it's cool you have such a passion for Vic20 games. I have a passion for any retro system, but growing up with the 64 and then Amiga I of course really appreciate seeing any commodore computer pushed to it's limits. Kind of off topic but there's a guy on YouTube called Sharopolis who does some excellent videos on games that push the limits of retro consoles and computers. His video on games pushing the limits of the Sinclair Zx80 and zx81 is so interesting I must have watched it five times already. Towards the end of the video he even covers color games for these primitive black and white computers that use a new hardware addon to allow color. It's fascinating stuff. He also did some great ones on the C64 and pretty much every old computer or console. Modern movie like games bore me. I love seeing what they can squeeze out of old systems, and in fact prefer old arcade and computer games over anything the big three console makers have in games these days. Have you played Doom on the Vic20 yet ?
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Post by vic2020ian on Jun 29, 2021 21:10:53 GMT
Archon was released for 3.5k Vic20 in the last few days.
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Post by c64stuff on Jun 29, 2021 23:14:43 GMT
I think I saw LGR review that game on the vic or somebody did. Impressive. Did you add Pitfall to the games? It's a newer Vic game that uses raster interrupts and looks pretty good. The 8 Bit Guy showed it when doing his review of the Maxi. There's also a new role playing D&G style game out for the Vic that is said to be the biggest game ever written for it, featuring multiple disks and it needs the maximum ram expansion you can do on the Vic if I remember right. That graphics are pretty darn good.
I just played a few Vic games on Project Carousel and I'm shocked at how good some were back in the day. Demon Attack is very addictive. Atari did some nice ports for it. If it wasn't for the limitations in ram of the stock machine imagine what kind of disk and tape based games it would have had with just 16 or even 8K of ram. I guess that's why everything was on cartridge so it could be bigger. Lately I've been thinking of the first 64 games I bought on cart before I got a disk drive and only had a tape player. Lemans comes to mind. Great fun using Atari paddles. I think I might start collecting cartridge games for the 64. The box art alone is worth it.
Btw with the new Mega 65 coming out to replicate the prototype C65 Commodore had, I'm wondering if it can be emulated on the mini and maxi through Vice? There's some new games being written for that crazy cool 8 bit machine, which in some ways had graphics that rivaled 16 bit computers. Dual SID stereo too. Amazing piece of hardware but unfortunately it came along too late and the Amiga killed it. It could probably be said no other 8 bit computer ever made could rival it.
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Post by spannernick on Jul 3, 2021 9:25:54 GMT
I have requested to RGL that they should have a option to turn Accurate Disk on or off but I do not see them adding it, in VICE True Drive Emulation(thats what its really called) is on by default.
If you turn it off it makes it act like a SD2IEC device and not a real 1541 disk drive.
There is not a emulator on Linux for the C65, there is a emulator for Windows only, THEC64 Maxi would not be able to run it anyway.
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Post by turrican9 on Jul 6, 2021 16:39:14 GMT
I have requested to RGL that they should have a option to turn Accurate Disk on or off but I do not see them adding it, in VICE True Drive Emulation(thats what its really called) is on by default. If you turn it off it makes it act like a SD2IEC device and not a real 1541 disk drive. I do not see any reason as to why they should not give this as an option
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