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Post by c64stuff on Apr 30, 2021 16:04:38 GMT
I see mods now exist to run full versions of Vice on the mini and maxi and emulate the pet, vic20, 64, plus 4, and 128. Does project carousel allow you to launch seamlessly and directly into these games like you can the vic20 on the maxi?
Other question is what other systems do you think the mini and maxi can emulate? I'm guessing they're powerful enough to emulate the amiga but the real bottleneck might be the available ram? How much ram does the mini and maxi come with? What about emulating other systems such as the Spectrum?
Finally, two emuoators I would love to see on the mini and maxi would be mame arcade games and a version of the Atari Flashback GUI. I think it would be fantastic to see carousel options that, instead of listing a game, have the box art spot filled with a picture of the Atari 2600 console and it says LAUNCH Flashback GUI and games. Same deal with versions of other mini consoles such as sega, nintendo, etc. Then you'd really see even this 64 minis snatched up by people cuz they could emulate pretty much any other mini complete witt it's GUI.
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Post by jj0 on May 2, 2021 9:02:10 GMT
I see mods now exist to run full versions of Vice on the mini and maxi and emulate the pet, vic20, 64, plus 4, and 128. Does project carousel allow you to launch seamlessly and directly into these games like you can the vic20 on the maxi? Other question is what other systems do you think the mini and maxi can emulate? I'm guessing they're powerful enough to emulate the amiga but the real bottleneck might be the available ram? How much ram does the mini and maxi come with? What about emulating other systems such as the Spectrum? Finally, two emuoators I would love to see on the mini and maxi would be mame arcade games and a version of the Atari Flashback GUI. I think it would be fantastic to see carousel options that, instead of listing a game, have the box art spot filled with a picture of the Atari 2600 console and it says LAUNCH Flashback GUI and games. Same deal with versions of other mini consoles such as sega, nintendo, etc. Then you'd really see even this 64 minis snatched up by people cuz they could emulate pretty much any other mini complete witt it's GUI. The Mini/Maxi both have 256MB RAM which should be enough. I'v compiled e.g. Amiberry, uae4arm, Fuse-SDL but they all have issues with how they display on the screen. E.g. wrong colours, very small screen, two images side by side. With the full-blown VICE I was able to overcome these issues by tweaking the screen resolution and framebuffer resolution settings but these tricks didn't improve the display of the other emulators. |
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Post by c64stuff on May 2, 2021 18:47:32 GMT
Thx for the info. I wonder if there are other mini consoles using the same or a similar cpu. If so perhaps recompiling their gui and emulator to run on the mini and maxi wouldn't be as much of a task?
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Post by c64stuff on May 3, 2021 11:47:23 GMT
Btw I'd also add that I'd love to see the Mega C65 emulated on the mini and maxi. With the Mega 65 reproduction of this commodore prototype in full swing I'd expect a good many games being written to take advantage of it's phenomenal graphics and dual sids. It really is amazing what commodore came up with in the 8 bit C65, giving it in some ways better graphics than some 16 bit machines.
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Post by spannernick on May 4, 2021 14:49:06 GMT
mmm no way, its like superCPU64 and Mini/Maxi would not be able to handle it.
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Post by efeso on Aug 7, 2021 17:09:23 GMT
I have seen Raspberry Pi emulating few old consoles, I thinking about buing The C64 MAXI, but would like to play some Gameboy and similar old consoles on it too, tech specs doesn't look that bad, there's really no way to emulate anything on C64MAXI?
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Post by c64stuff on Aug 7, 2021 17:55:45 GMT
With the latest project carousel these guys have the mini and maxi emulating the pet, Vic 20, C64, 128, and plus 4/C16. And now with their upcoming version it'll emulate the Atari line. I'm guessing that includes the 2600, 400 800, and Xl line, but excludes the ST.
If you're wanting to do pretty much any console or computer up to the Amiga and St as well as PS1, Dreamcast, and everything up to around as new as that then a Raspberry Pi running RetroPie is the way to go. There's prebuilt images or you can build your own, which is easy. Keep in mind though the Pi is not going to be as easy to use as the maxi concerning keyboard related and a few other seamless features the mini and maxi provide. A USB keyboard obviously doesn't match up as well to the commodore keyboard. Another option is using a maxi with a pi, or throwing the pi into a commodore 64 or Vic 20 case and using the Keyra interface to mate the commodore keyboard to USB input on the pi. A big feature of that is it also provides two atari style joystick plugs in the proper place so you can use old school joysticks and paddles.
Just thought of a question: Is the project carousel Vic 20 emulation on the mini the same way through the carousel as the stock firmware on the maxi, or do you have to launch vice that project carousel privides to run it? I guess what I'm asking is did you guys change the mini's firmware to where it has the identical features as the maxi? Because far as I know the manufactures weren't giving the mini as many features on purpose such as Vic 20 emulation.
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Post by efeso on Aug 8, 2021 16:32:25 GMT
I was thinking more about software run from USB stick using power from C64Maxi.
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Post by vic2020ian on Aug 9, 2021 12:14:46 GMT
Just thought of a question: Is the project carousel Vic 20 emulation on the mini the same way through the carousel as the stock firmware on the maxi, or do you have to launch vice that project carousel privides to run it? I guess what I'm asking is did you guys change the mini's firmware to where it has the identical features as the maxi? Because far as I know the manufactures weren't giving the mini as many features on purpose such as Vic 20 emulation. PCUAE adds features to TheC64 / TheVic20 / Thec64Mini in the following ways. 1. Carousel mode - looks like the stock carousel but has extra game slots and additional carousels accessible - but they run with the same official emulation of C64 and Vic20 - think of it as expanding the carousel size only. 2. VICE Mode - runs a full VICE emulation of 7 machines - not the same compiled version as shipped, a new one with all the VICE menu items available. 3. Additional shortcut keys or functions - things you cannot do with stock firmware like: turn off the startup splash graphics, turn off carousel scroll sounds, run Jiffydos etc. 4. Linux mode - run an X windows desktop 5. Coming in a future version - additional emulators - e.g. Atari 400/800/800XL |
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Post by vic2020ian on Aug 9, 2021 12:15:36 GMT
I was thinking more about software run from USB stick using power from C64Maxi. See above post item 5 and futher emulation coming to PCUAE next version. |
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Post by efeso on Aug 21, 2021 19:29:40 GMT
If you're wanting to do pretty much any console or computer up to the Amiga and St as well as PS1, Dreamcast, and everything up to around as new as that then a Raspberry Pi running RetroPie is the way to go. There's prebuilt images or you can build your own, which is easy. Keep in mind though the Pi is not going to be as easy to use as the maxi concerning keyboard related and a few other seamless features the mini and maxi provide. A USB keyboard obviously doesn't match up as well to the commodore keyboard. Another option is using a maxi with a pi, or throwing the pi into a commodore 64 or Vic 20 case and using the Keyra interface to mate the commodore keyboard to USB input on the pi. A big feature of that is it also provides two atari style joystick plugs in the proper place so you can use old school joysticks and paddles. There's also a PlayStation Classic that cost only 100PLN more than TheC64 and this PSC can emulate also C64 from some kind of software called RetroBoot, AutoBleem and another emulators from USB Comment says that it's even cheaper than Pi.
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Post by c64stuff on Aug 21, 2021 22:58:21 GMT
That's cool but I'm mainly into the commodore minis and maxi and for other stuff I use a raspberry pi setup. When the Amiga mini and maxi come out I'll get that too, and probably a few other old computer minis like a spectrum if they ever come out with any. Far as any consoles go I like any of them up until the PlayStation one hit the market. After that my interest dwindles. For me the 8 bit era is my thing and the 16 bit era, but past the introduction of the Amiga and Sega Genesis I lose interest. Never was much of a Nintendo fan. Sega Dreamcast is one I'd be interested in though. Beyond that I like the old arcade games from the 80's and early 90s. Once IBM compatibles came along and killed off the diversity of the computer market and playstation and Xbox did it to consoles I drifted away. So glad there's a retro revival going on. Hated Atari back then too but they're also of interest to me now. Even the more obscure UK machines than the spectrum are very interesting.
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Post by spannernick on Aug 22, 2021 11:29:39 GMT
I tried to run UAE4arm and PUAE in THEVIC20 via PCUAE and RetroArch Mode and it runs out of memory cause it only has 256 mb ram so it can not load the kickstart but Hatari(Atari ST) works, I have tested that with Hard Drivin'....  in RA Mode(RA 1.7.0) so some games that were on the Amiga that was ported to the Atari St, you be able to run still, but some might not be as good as the Amiga version but better than nothing, I be adding RA Mode Pack to PCUAE 1.6.0 next, it has 2 versions of RetroArch, 1.7.0 and 1.9.6, I am at the moment having a problem with 1.9.6 and it loading cores, it loads cores fine, using Load Core but thinks they are in a different folder when it loads any content, using Load Content. I have looked in the History playlists and changed where the cores are but it didn't make a difference, might have to reinstall them. |
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Post by efeso on Aug 24, 2021 21:02:36 GMT
Wait, TheC64 is to weak to run emulators of NES/SNES, Genesis or even Gameboy?
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Post by c64stuff on Aug 25, 2021 1:21:09 GMT
I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong but I get the impression it can run everything up to the 16 bit era but then it's a question of if the emulator has enough memory available to load the OS and the game, etc. For instance, I believe he said he was able to load the ST but not the Amiga because of a lack of memory. The other limiting factor is probably accelerated hardware, because I think he has said it can run the SuperCPU hardware for the C64 but not very fast, so I'm guessing even if it can run super NES games any that were using cartridges with special chips for certain things like 3D processing enhancement it probably couldn't cope with. An interesting question for me is if it can run a Sega Genesis 16 bit emulator because I'm no big fan of Nintendo anyway. MAME arcade games from the 80's and very early 90s are also something I'd like to see, as well as any computers or consoles from the 80's.
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Post by spannernick on Aug 25, 2021 13:18:29 GMT
I have tested Mario Kart on RA Mode with SNES9x and it works.. |
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Post by hometownnerd on Oct 12, 2021 13:39:02 GMT
I realize you are asking about the Maxi emulating the Amiga, but I am seriously considering a Raspberry Pi 400 for this myself, although I think I want the c64 maxi too. The 400 can emulate a lot of computers/consoles and also gives you a full Linux computer too all with having a built in keyboard too and mouse for around $100-$130. I think I will get that and have sdcards that have PiMiga and one for either Combian or some other C64 OS (I forget the one I saw few months ago that just booted straight to C64 emulation) and maybe even one for retropie. These Raspberry Pis boot so fast it is really easy and fast to switch from one to the other. Just my opinion of course, I just wish they would stop releasing the mini versions of the computers and just start with the Maxi versions, now that the A500 mini is announced. Would love to have an A500 Maxi and a C64 Maxi to go with my Mini.
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Post by spannernick on Oct 13, 2021 11:24:19 GMT
UAE4Arm does work on THEC64 Maxi with Retroarch but has bugs in it(no keyboard or mouse, that cause RA needs udev to see them and the firmware uses a slandered dev folder so udev was not included, so is not enabled in the kernel), you can run UAE4Arm binary standalone but it has a 2 screen problem, it shows the menu twice on the screen next to each other and in green, its because it has a fixed resolution so can't get it to display correct, its the way the firmware is and its kernel, if I load it on my Armiga(Cubieboard2) it displays correctly and works ok.
So the Amiga does work but the firmware was not made for it, only way to fix this is with a new kernel and firmware, but at the moment thats not going to happen.
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in RA Mode(RA 1.7.0) so some games that were on the Amiga that was ported to the Atari St, you be able to run still, but some might not be as good as the Amiga version but better than nothing, I be adding RA Mode Pack to PCUAE 1.6.0 next, it has 2 versions of RetroArch, 1.7.0 and 1.9.6, I am at the moment having a problem with 1.9.6 and it loading cores, it loads cores fine, using Load Core but thinks they are in a different folder when it loads any content, using Load Content. I have looked in the History playlists and changed where the cores are but it didn't make a difference, might have to reinstall them.
