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Post by spannernick on Oct 4, 2020 14:00:17 GMT
I think by making THEC64 Mini killed the hype from THEC64 release, cause it basically the same device with extra features, It has extra features so it not exactly the same has its little brother, and makes it more attractive to buy, that why Media Access is not on THEC64 Mini, well you do need things to attract users.. (I don't like the word "Full Size" it sounds cheap "Maxi" is better and more grander and matches "Mini" like "the Mini size and the Maxi size" like Nappies.. Pampers, they don't say full size on the packet, its say Mini or Maxi and on TENA. Like they never said The Full Size ZX Spectrum Next or the Full Size Mega 65.. ) Anyway what you think..? I posted this cause just seen another site close that use to support THEC64 Mini/Maxi so it popularity is dwindling. My grandson(he's 7yrs old) would rather play the PS4 or his tablet than play THEC64 Mini/Maxi, these are aimed at kids from the 80s like me and for nostalgia and not for todays kids.
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Post by darbyram on Oct 5, 2020 0:12:52 GMT
I think by making THEC64 Mini killed the hype from THEC64 release, cause it basically the same device with extra features, It has extra features so it not exactly the same has its little brother, and makes it more attractive to buy, that why Media Access is not on THEC64 Mini. (I don't like the word "Full Size" it sounds cheap "Maxi" is better and more grander and matches "Mini" like "the Mini size and the Maxi size" like Nappies.. Pampers, they don't say full size on the packet, its say Mini or Maxi and on TENA. Like they never said The Full Size ZX Spectrum Next or the Full Size Mega 65.. ) Anyway what you think..? I posted this cause just seen another site close that use to support THEC64 Mini/Maxi so it popularity is dwindling. My grandson(he's 7yrs old) would rather play the PS4 or his tablet than play THEC64 Mini/Maxi, these are aimed at kids from the 80s like me and for nostalgia and not for todays kids. The mini was made just to dip there toes into the market, enough people were interested and along came the maxi (old school will always have a market to a certain extent) As for the Vic20 that is due out, I would not of done that personally as we have that option anyway. Get your grandson learning Basic on your mini/maxi. instead of playing games, after all that's how we all learnt initially.
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Post by gurce on Oct 5, 2020 10:37:28 GMT
Feeling in a contemplative mood tonight, so will ramble :-)
I agree about the term "maxi", I prefer it too, short and to the point. Detractors say it reminds them of the name of some female sanitary product, but I don't think that negative connotation exists globally, just some regions where the sanitary product was heavily promoted. I have vague distant memories of such a product in Australia too, but it seems like an age ago since I saw an ad for it, so I didn't feel the "maxi" term is immediately associated with that product anymore.
As for popularity comparison of the two versions, feel like the mini was a great hit, considering how minimal promotion/advertising it had. I do believe the stories of it running out of stock on retailers shelves and RGL having to produce more stock to top up shelves. Some detractors say that it wasn't a hit because they saw them everywhere on shelves, concluding that nobody wanted them, so retailers had to drop prices significantly. I don't think that's a fair measure of success. If that is what equates to success, RGL would have simply not manufactured any more, limited supply, and gotten news headlines like "c64 mini proves to be so popular, it's out of stock" (a bit like the hype Nintendo got out of the initial limited amount of NES mini). I feel RGL, instead wanted to make sure that everyone that wanted one could get one. Good on them for that.
As for TheC64 maxi, personally, I've enjoyed this version more, the real keyboard, the large, eye-catching packaging, it does a great job in recreating those original childhood memories. I feel like stock was limited in Australia compared to the mini. So part of me wonders whether retailers here that overstocked on the mini and felt like they got a bit burnt by that then held back on the supply of maxi's. If so, that's a shame, as it will skew the sense of popularity towards the mini.
In the fb forums, I do sense there are people that are willing to "make do" with a mini, until they can find a way to source themselves a maxi.
But then again, I also hear some are perfectly happy with the mini and see no need in getting a maxi. So it makes me feel like there are some c64 folk that are happy to simply relive the gaming aspect of the c64 era, and are happy not to need to type cryptic commands like LOAD "*",8,1 to make it happen :-)
And then there are folks that have strong memories of typing programs out of books/magazines, writing their own programs, I can understand why the maxi will resonate for them.
There are even some that have more unique experiences they'd like to relive, such as wiring up their own hobby electronics to the user port, dialing up a BBS, using GEOS with a mouse, printing out banners with Print Master. Alas, the Maxi can't make all these things a reality, but perhaps there could be modders one day that crave such things and try to find a way to do it :-) Some might point out alternatives to TheC64 Maxi (U64, perhaps even the Mega65 might get a user port). Yeah, fair call, those are options too. But if someone wants to make do with their C64 maxi and see how far they can push its boundaries, good on them too :-)
I also feel like another factor in popularity is how to maintain the interest of people that buy the mini or the maxi. Sure, they buy it, they get the nostalgia hit, relive their childhood memories, but then where to? Back to their Playstations, Nintendos and Xboxes? Or is there something that can renew their interest, new modern c64 games to sample perhaps? Have some fun with writing their own BASIC programs? Or challenging themselves further with assembly? Writing a c64 game? Drawing some cool PETSCII artwork? Dabbling with some music composition software to make your own SID melody? Or even write a cool mod for the emulator to add some extra facilities you've been craving? I think all of that is awesome, it's great to see people doing cool and new things with their c64's and sharing it, sharing their passion and enthusiasm, as that is what keeps these systems alive, we all love to see what cool new thing people do next with it :-) And I hope that enthusiasm endures for us and propagates, fingers crossed :-)
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Post by spannernick on Oct 5, 2020 11:37:29 GMT
I love THEC64 Maxi, even if I did build it, I actually like it more cause I did, It nice to look at something that you know you made.. It feels like you have done something.. I built it cause I never had the money for the replica C64 Maxi and still don't, well I wouldn't buy one now, just got a new Keyrah V2 for it cause the V1 has dry joint in it and the way it built it unfixable, it looks like it were the IC is, when I push on the Keyrah v1 board the keys work ok and then some don't when take my finger away, well the Keyrah v1 is like 10 years old, I got it to make a C64K with Commodore OS in 2011, so it was like the C64X by CUSA. I use it now to make PCU on, and now never use THEC64 Mini, only to test PCU on, I don't even use my original hardware now, it in my bedroom collecting dust, I have a big C64 collection, incluing 1541 Disk drive Easyflash3 and a UK1541, you can see it on one of my videos on you tube, under RETROnuts.. I hate it when I see a site go down to do with THEC64.. I have probably got a year left with this domain name for this forum, Retrobiker owns it, but have not seen him for years, its for 3 years only. I love how the Carousel is and works, Chris Smith is very talented.. and had to work out how to make a file browser in C#..
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