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Post by jj0 on May 13, 2021 10:43:14 GMT
JJ or other knowledgeable folk, On the Maxi, is X-Windows v3 safe to use? For tasks like file management (moving, copying, deletion of files or directories), editing (renaming) of filenames or directory names, or text file creation and editing - such as with CJM files. It hasn't been updated since Feb 2020. Is that because it's super-stable (hopefully so), or has it just gone into a state of dormancy? Are there any Maxi users who can vouch for it? Thanks. It's safe as houses - the only issue you might run into is lack of memory if you run too many or too much resource-hungry programs. But for it's intended purpose (copying files, editing files) it is fine. Also there's no need for updated versions - if it ain't broken then don't fix it. The only reason for me to release an update would be if it would fix the occasional screen corruption that occurs. |
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Post by sundance on May 15, 2021 20:48:06 GMT
It's safe as houses - the only issue you might run into is lack of memory if you run too many or too much resource-hungry programs. But for it's intended purpose (copying files, editing files) it is fine. Also there's no need for updated versions - if it ain't broken then don't fix it. The only reason for me to release an update would be if it would fix the occasional screen corruption that occurs. Thanks JJ. There's a discussion in the X-windows thread, about connecting the Maxi to the internet whilst using it. Via a USB to LAN (ethernet) dongle. Did anything come of that? If so, are there any useful applications for this? I gather you wouldn't use the Maxi (or even a real, vintage C64) for web browsing. The Holy Grail would be if crackers managed to modify some C64 games that already have built-in support for two-player simultaneous functionality, to support such functionality where the 2nd player is remotely connected. Or C64 dev's could develop brand new games that support even more than two simultaneous players, via remote connection. |
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Post by panzerpaule on May 16, 2021 5:53:39 GMT
Hallöchen zusammen, wollte mal wissen, ob die 1.5.1 auch Drucker erkennen kann?
und in welscher form man sie ansteuert ?
wollte denn VIC-20 maxi am Drucker anschließen , aber welsches Model ist Ratsam?
Habe ein Laserdrucker von Bruder.
Wehre netto wenn da mir jemand weiter helfen hilft danke
im voraus für eure mühe!
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Post by jj0 on May 16, 2021 8:10:52 GMT
It's safe as houses - the only issue you might run into is lack of memory if you run too many or too much resource-hungry programs. But for it's intended purpose (copying files, editing files) it is fine. Also there's no need for updated versions - if it ain't broken then don't fix it. The only reason for me to release an update would be if it would fix the occasional screen corruption that occurs. Thanks JJ. There's a discussion in the X-windows thread, about connecting the Maxi to the internet whilst using it. Via a USB to LAN (ethernet) dongle. Did anything come of that? Well, it works but whether it's useful maybe mobluse can comment on that as I think he's been using it the most.This really depends on your definition of useful ;-) For me it's just the fun to get it working. For others it might be a cheap way to get their first Linux experience. But due to the lack of memory you can't do much with it. I developed it mainly for backing up and modding the internal nand. |
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Post by sundance on May 16, 2021 11:30:05 GMT
JJ, yeah, you're right.
The satisfaction of getting it working is reward enough in itself :-)
Speaking of memory, how much RAM does the Maxi have? I gather it's the same RAM spec for all regional models ... I have the Snowbird one bought from Amazon US.
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Post by sundance on May 16, 2021 11:34:57 GMT
i asked they won`t do it printer support What about a virtual printer? Printing to a PDF or PostScript file, on the USB stick. |
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Post by jj0 on May 16, 2021 11:43:36 GMT
JJ, yeah, you're right. The satisfaction of getting it working is reward enough in itself :-) Speaking of memory, how much RAM does the Maxi have? I gather it's the same RAM spec for all regional models ... I have the Snowbird one bought from Amazon US. The Mini & Maxi models all have a meagre 256MB. |
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Post by sundance on May 16, 2021 12:54:01 GMT
The Mini & Maxi models all have a meagre 256MB. On the Maxi, is the RAM expandable if you open up the case? Is the RAM supplied on a couple of DDR4 sticks that can be upgraded for higher capacity ones? It'd be nice to upgrade to 4GB like a Pi 400. Or even better, to 8GB like a Pi 4 Model B. |
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Post by jj0 on May 16, 2021 13:55:12 GMT
The Mini & Maxi models all have a meagre 256MB. On the Maxi, is the RAM expandable if you open up the case? Is the RAM supplied on a couple of DDR4 sticks that can be upgraded for higher capacity ones? It'd be nice to upgrade to 4GB like a Pi 400. Or even better, to 8GB like a Pi 4 Model B. 512MB should be possible. Maybe more if you replace the RAM chip. thec64community.online/threads/recent/876 |
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Post by vic2020ian on May 16, 2021 15:28:27 GMT
The Mini & Maxi models all have a meagre 256MB. On the Maxi, is the RAM expandable if you open up the case? Is the RAM supplied on a couple of DDR4 sticks that can be upgraded for higher capacity ones? It'd be nice to upgrade to 4GB like a Pi 400. Or even better, to 8GB like a Pi 4 Model B. No it is not simply expandable. It is not like a PC. The board inside is about the size of a Raspberry Pi. It is a single board computer. All the chips are soldered. You would need to be able to desolder the ram chip and replace with something bigger. The Kernel might need to be rewritten to make use of more ram. It is not designed to be plug and play expandable. |
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Post by jj0 on May 16, 2021 16:00:48 GMT
On the Maxi, is the RAM expandable if you open up the case? Is the RAM supplied on a couple of DDR4 sticks that can be upgraded for higher capacity ones? It'd be nice to upgrade to 4GB like a Pi 400. Or even better, to 8GB like a Pi 4 Model B. No it is not simply expandable. It is not like a PC. The board inside is about the size of a Raspberry Pi. It is a single board computer. All the chips are soldered. You would need to be able to desolder the ram chip and replace with something bigger. The Kernel might need to be rewritten to make use of more ram. It is not designed to be plug and play expandable. The kernel seems to autodiscover the additional 256MB I added (or really I had a friend who can actually solder SMD add). |
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Post by vic2020ian on May 16, 2021 17:29:10 GMT
I meant it might need a rewrite to support 4GB vs and extra 256MB
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Post by sundance on May 17, 2021 1:04:31 GMT
Perhaps Retrogames could consider writing a version of the v1.5.2 firmware for the Pi 4 Model B?
Then we could replace the whole internals ... providing us with 8 GB of RAM, a must faster processor, and online connectivity. Imagine the expansion opportunities that'd provide with Project Carousel :-)
Whilst still having the dedicated Retrogames C64 interface and functionality, built inside the full-sized C64 or Vic20 replica case (with the Maxi or TheVic20), with the fully working, full-sized replica keyboard.
That'd be pure bliss.
It'd also open up a new revenue stream for Retrogames ... thus providing a profitable business case for the development of the firmware. Ideally the Pi firmware would be provided FREE to existing owners of Retrogames hardware (the Mini, Maxi, or TheVic20), who wish to mod their hardware by replacing the internals with a Pi 4 Model B (or another compatible Pi model). Retrogames could then SELL the Pi firmware to those folks wishing to use it "solely" on a Raspberry Pi without owning any prior Retrogames hardware. Those folks could purchase a unique license key, validated by an online cross-check (given the Pi has online connectivity) to the Retrogames server required for the firmware to function.
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Post by spannernick on May 17, 2021 9:41:30 GMT
You can use a Orange PI H3 but its still tide down by its kernal and firmware, it firmware needs replacing some how, then be able to do other things on it.
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Post by panzerpaule on May 18, 2021 21:52:20 GMT
Ich fragte, sie würden es nicht Druckerunterstützung tun
Noch besser wehre über USB die Steuerung von Lego Modulen ? |
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Post by panzerpaule on May 18, 2021 21:54:58 GMT
Hallöchen zusammen, verloren mal wissen, ob die 1.5.1 auch Drucker erkennen kann? und in welscher form man sie ansteuert? wollte denn VIC-20 maxi am Drucker unterscheiden, aber welsches Model ist Ratsam? Habe ein Laserdrucker von Bruder. Wehre netto wenn da mir jemand weiter hilft hilft danke im voraus für eure mühe!
Steuerung vom The C64 Maxi aus ( Befehl / Basic ) oder per Anschluss ?
Und welsche Drucker wehren da optimal ? |
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Post by sundance on May 23, 2021 2:46:43 GMT
Hi Nick,
Is there a rough timeline for when you plan to weave more of your coding magic, and send 1.4.4 our way? :-)
With the VICE mode.
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Post by vic2020ian on May 23, 2021 9:50:14 GMT
Final beta testing is going on. It has gone through over 5 tweaks and will be amazing....
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Post by sundance on May 23, 2021 10:29:11 GMT
Final beta testing is going on. It has gone through over 5 tweaks and will be amazing.... Thanks Ian. Ooooo ... exciting :-) |
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Post by vic2020ian on May 23, 2021 11:53:34 GMT
Final beta testing is going on. It has gone through over 5 tweaks and will be amazing.... Thanks Ian. Ooooo ... exciting :-) Oops Typo That should have read 50 - fifty tweaks and changes as there have bene so many incremental improvements. |
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Post by grasshopper on May 23, 2021 17:46:10 GMT
Perhaps Retrogames could consider writing a version of the v1.5.2 firmware for the Pi 4 Model B? Then we could replace the whole internals ... providing us with 8 GB of RAM, a must faster processor, and online connectivity. Imagine the expansion opportunities that'd provide with Project Carousel :-) Whilst still having the dedicated Retrogames C64 interface and functionality, built inside the full-sized C64 or Vic20 replica case (with the Maxi or TheVic20), with the fully working, full-sized replica keyboard. That'd be pure bliss. It'd also open up a new revenue stream for Retrogames ... thus providing a profitable business case for the development of the firmware. Ideally the Pi firmware would be provided FREE to existing owners of Retrogames hardware (the Mini, Maxi, or TheVic20), who wish to mod their hardware by replacing the internals with a Pi 4 Model B (or another compatible Pi model). Retrogames could then SELL the Pi firmware to those folks wishing to use it "solely" on a Raspberry Pi without owning any prior Retrogames hardware. Those folks could purchase a unique license key, validated by an online cross-check (given the Pi has online connectivity) to the Retrogames server required for the firmware to function. Alternatively, RGL could stop dragging their feet and release the source code as they're obliged to do under the terms of the GPL. We could then create a Pi version ourselves...
Of course another option would be to create a C64 specific build of Retropie. In some respects, that might be better than using RGL's front end.
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Post by sundance on May 24, 2021 1:41:28 GMT
Thanks Ian. Ooooo ... exciting :-) Oops Typo That should have read 50 - fifty tweaks and changes as there have bene so many incremental improvements. Ian, that's even beter :-) It'll be fab for sure. |
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Post by vic2020ian on May 24, 2021 7:40:30 GMT
Oops Typo That should have read 50 - fifty tweaks and changes as there have bene so many incremental improvements. Ian, that's even beter :-) It'll be fab for sure. It turns the mini into the 1984 Vic20 out of box experience as well as others...... |
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Post by spannernick on May 24, 2021 10:08:29 GMT
Perhaps Retrogames could consider writing a version of the v1.5.2 firmware for the Pi 4 Model B? Then we could replace the whole internals ... providing us with 8 GB of RAM, a must faster processor, and online connectivity. Imagine the expansion opportunities that'd provide with Project Carousel :-) Whilst still having the dedicated Retrogames C64 interface and functionality, built inside the full-sized C64 or Vic20 replica case (with the Maxi or TheVic20), with the fully working, full-sized replica keyboard. That'd be pure bliss. It'd also open up a new revenue stream for Retrogames ... thus providing a profitable business case for the development of the firmware. Ideally the Pi firmware would be provided FREE to existing owners of Retrogames hardware (the Mini, Maxi, or TheVic20), who wish to mod their hardware by replacing the internals with a Pi 4 Model B (or another compatible Pi model). Retrogames could then SELL the Pi firmware to those folks wishing to use it "solely" on a Raspberry Pi without owning any prior Retrogames hardware. Those folks could purchase a unique license key, validated by an online cross-check (given the Pi has online connectivity) to the Retrogames server required for the firmware to function. Alternatively, RGL could stop dragging their feet and release the source code as they're obliged to do under the terms of the GPL. We could then create a Pi version ourselves...
Of course another option would be to create a C64 specific build of Retropie. In some respects, that might be better than using RGL's front end.
One problem, in the GPL it says you can release the source once and do not have to release updates of the source code so thats properly why they have not released a update to the source code, they already released the source code for the Mini and VICE, each machine is based on the same source code, each machine is the same machine, just has a different case(Breadbin). I can see them using the source code for the machines on the Amiga as well, but we will see, thats even if they build it, it depends on Koch Media too if they want to build it cause they manufactured the THEC64. |
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Post by vic2020ian on May 24, 2021 18:26:45 GMT
Quick update with Nick's blessing.... Coming Soon.....more news over the next few days.  |
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Post by sjakie43 on May 31, 2021 20:14:23 GMT
Hi,
I am having some troubles with PCU 1.4.3 i think......see picture... The first 8 folders load up ok but from 9 to up it fails to load and retruns me to the startup carousel. Then when i check the usb stick i see there is a extra folder created? 9_C64
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Post by sjakie43 on May 31, 2021 20:36:52 GMT
And something else....... i thought it was solved but now it happens again ? 
Vic20 cartridge games not working on TheVIC20 but are working in Game Manager?
I'm getting old.........
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Post by vic2020ian on Jun 1, 2021 9:35:35 GMT
Hi,
I am having some troubles with PCU 1.4.3 i think......see picture... The first 8 folders load up ok but from 9 to up it fails to load and retruns me to the startup carousel. Then when i check the usb stick i see there is a extra folder created? 9_C64
Thanks - I will check for that issue in the latest version and post later. |
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Post by vic2020ian on Jun 1, 2021 9:36:07 GMT
And something else....... i thought it was solved but now it happens again ?
Vic20 cartridge games not working on TheVIC20 but are working in Game Manager?
I'm getting old.........
Is it all cartridges or just some? |
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Post by sjakie43 on Jun 1, 2021 11:07:30 GMT
I think all but i have to check it tonight after work.....
I do remember that cartridges needed to be snapshots if my memory is correct.(vic20)
I could take them from the PCU install package 
I'm off, have to end my lunch break ...
Maybe i have deleted the wrong backup, i really can't tell
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