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Post by spannernick on Feb 26, 2021 18:49:43 GMT
Don't know why, what is your machine your using...?
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Post by lamerdeluxe on Feb 26, 2021 18:56:42 GMT
i don't like demos. Just like shareware. I think it's pollution, only useful if you want to buy it is good It is not that kind of demos. This is about demo scene demos, software made by hobbyists to get the maximum possible out of the system both in graphics and audio. There are groups competing with these demos at demo scene parties and the results are often beautiful and very impressive to watch, combined with really good music. A number of people in the gaming industry came from the demo scene and many are still active in it. |
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Post by vic2020ian on Feb 26, 2021 22:34:52 GMT
It is not that kind of demos. This is about demo scene demos, software made by hobbyists to get the maximum possible out of the system both in graphics and audio. There are groups competing with these demos at demo scene parties and the results are often beautiful and very impressive to watch, combined with really good music. A number of people in the gaming industry came from the demo scene and many are still active in it. this is why i like them so much it really makes the most of the commodore 64 I never really got that demo scene - lots of bouncy balls and copper bars and scolling Greetz....to what end ? Why not expend the effort and write a full program to really get the most out of the coding and the machine? |
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Post by megabit on Feb 27, 2021 0:07:20 GMT
OK I deleted the poll, and Autoboot will be disabled at booting up PCU, what I do is if you want it to do it still automatically, the script will still run but you will have to put in a file its looking for in boot folder, once it sees the file is there then Autoboot will automatically boot on startup and will check to see if the autoboot file is in the firmware, if its not then copy it to it at startup, I will make the file for you and all you do is drop it into the Carousel_Games/Options/boot folder to enable Autoboot from start-up. What you think..? I hope it makes sense..  Time to get back to work and working on PCU.. Yes, it seems to me that it makes sense. |
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Post by ginger on Feb 27, 2021 0:59:53 GMT
Don't know why, what is your machine your using...? C64 mini purchased when first released. |
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Post by spannernick on Feb 27, 2021 10:35:41 GMT
I have a silver label C64 Mini EU(PAL) Toshiba nand and it work ok on it(v1.3.2), its a argent and tested on both models of the Mini, ESTM and Toshiba and PCU works ok on them, I have 2 Mini's and a THEVIC20.
PCUv1.3.2 I never had a problem with it and it slowing down so what you could do is try a different USB Stick and make sure you wipe the USB stick so no opther version on there than v1.3.1, its a clean install of PCU.
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Post by lamerdeluxe on Feb 27, 2021 10:48:17 GMT
this is why i like them so much it really makes the most of the commodore 64 I never really got that demo scene - lots of bouncy balls and copper bars and scolling Greetz....to what end ? Why not expend the effort and write a full program to really get the most out of the coding and the machine? I guess you haven't watched the best demos, they can be works of art, like a movie, they are technically creative products. Technically demos are often at the very limits of what the hardware is capable of and use very advanced techniques and tricks to accomplish that. Commercial products are often not able to do that, because time is money. Apart from being a way to express creativity in programming, graphics and music, they also serve as a great way for the creators to improve their skills by challenging themselves. Many developers don't enjoy working on all the boring boilerplate code needed to create a complete application, which for instance is why my current job is creating cutting edge VR/AR/MR prototypes. Things learned from creating demos can often be applied to commercial projects. This is why a lot of demo scene members went on to work in game development. Also the demo scene is a community of technically creative people inspiring each other, which is a good motivation to develop your skills. |
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Post by lamerdeluxe on Feb 27, 2021 10:50:16 GMT
It is not that kind of demos. This is about demo scene demos, software made by hobbyists to get the maximum possible out of the system both in graphics and audio. There are groups competing with these demos at demo scene parties and the results are often beautiful and very impressive to watch, combined with really good music. A number of people in the gaming industry came from the demo scene and many are still active in it. this is why i like them so much it really makes the most of the commodore 64 Absolutely. Some of the things I see being done on old hardware would have completely blown my mind as a kid. And they also serve as good tests for emulators |
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Post by sjakie43 on Feb 27, 2021 11:25:54 GMT
I love the Demoscene for a fact, especially Demos for the C64,VIC20,Amiga  Even other retro computers have very nice demos,ie ZX spectrum,Amstrad CPC, even the Atari 2600  I loved them (C64)30+ Years ago and still do
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Post by ginger on Feb 27, 2021 19:02:14 GMT
I have a silver label C64 Mini EU(PAL) Toshiba nand and it work ok on it(v1.3.2), its a argent and tested on both models of the Mini, ESTM and Toshiba and PCU works ok on them, I have 2 Mini's and a THEVIC20. PCUv1.3.2 I never had a problem with it and it slowing down so what you could do is try a different USB Stick and make sure you wipe the USB stick so no opther version on there than v1.3.1, its a clean install of PCU. ok thanks i will wait for 1.3.2 and give it another try. i tried several usb sticks and it was the same all running slow unless pcu was loaded and running. It only rectified itself after running 1.19. |
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Post by lamerdeluxe on Feb 28, 2021 10:20:03 GMT
I love the Demoscene for a fact, especially Demos for the C64,VIC20,Amiga Even other retro computers have very nice demos,ie ZX spectrum,Amstrad CPC, even the Atari 2600 I loved them (C64)30+ Years ago and still do
Me too, I was in a small demo scene group in the nineties, only made an intro and a pack menu on the Amiga. I've recently joined another group and have worked on a couple of things that haven't been released yet. The parties are online now, but still fun. I love seeing what all these classic systems are capable of in the right hands. I'm going to put a collection of demos in my carousel, hopefully most of them will work. |
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Post by lamerdeluxe on Feb 28, 2021 10:23:50 GMT
@spannernick I've updated my VIC-20 and Mini to 1.52 and PCUAE 1.3.1. I'm using the same PCUAE stick on my Mini, but it doesn't auto boot after installing PCUAE, isn't it supposed to? IIRC I hadn't used any hack on it before.
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Post by spannernick on Feb 28, 2021 11:16:58 GMT
Cause you used Autoboot on THEVIC20(cause its the same USB Stick) when you put it into the mini it thinks its enabled already(turn on), the way round that is to disable Autoboot on the mini then enable it on the mint, do CTRL-7 twice then it will work on the mini and copy the start-up script to the firmware of the mini, so wait on the screen to say "Autoboot Disabled" the press CTRL-7 again for it to say "Autoboot Enabled" and its fixed.
I never made it for 2 machines with one USB stick , PCU is only meant to be used on one machine, it stop this happening again you need another USB stick so the mini has it own copy of PCU.
And for your Information: you can only use up to a 32GB USB Stick or SD Card in the machines, it will not work with a 64GB USB Stick/SD Card with SD Card Reader(from the manual)
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Post by lamerdeluxe on Feb 28, 2021 15:26:26 GMT
Cause you used Autoboot on THEVIC20(cause its the same USB Stick) when you put it into the mini it thinks its enabled already(turn on), the way round that is to disable Autoboot on the mini then enable it on the mint, do CTRL-7 twice then it will work on the mini and copy the start-up script to the firmware of the mini, so wait on the screen to say "Autoboot Disabled" the press CTRL-7 again for it to say "Autoboot Enabled" and its fixed. I never made it for 2 machines with one USB stick , PCU is only meant to be used on one machine, it stop this happening again you need another USB stick so the mini has it own copy of PCU. And for your Information: you can only use up to a 32GB USB Stick or SD Card in the machines, it will not work with a 64GB USB Stick/SD Card with SD Card Reader(from the manual) Thanks for the detailed information! That makes sense. I'll get a separate stick for it then. Good to know the maximum supported size as well. EDIT: Oh, BTW, I had plugged in my 64GB stick that I use for my Playstation Classic and it was recognized and browsable. |
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Post by jj0 on Feb 28, 2021 18:03:00 GMT
Cause you used Autoboot on THEVIC20(cause its the same USB Stick) when you put it into the mini it thinks its enabled already(turn on), the way round that is to disable Autoboot on the mini then enable it on the mint, do CTRL-7 twice then it will work on the mini and copy the start-up script to the firmware of the mini, so wait on the screen to say "Autoboot Disabled" the press CTRL-7 again for it to say "Autoboot Enabled" and its fixed. I never made it for 2 machines with one USB stick , PCU is only meant to be used on one machine, it stop this happening again you need another USB stick so the mini has it own copy of PCU. And for your Information: you can only use up to a 32GB USB Stick or SD Card in the machines, it will not work with a 64GB USB Stick/SD Card with SD Card Reader(from the manual) Thanks for the detailed information! That makes sense. I'll get a separate stick for it then. Good to know the maximum supported size as well. EDIT: Oh, BTW, I had plugged in my 64GB stick that I use for my Playstation Classic and it was recognized and browsable. You could just as well use the same stick on both machines and enable autoboot on both? |
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Post by spannernick on Mar 1, 2021 2:50:33 GMT
Yes but all the options you will have to run twice, each shortcut works as a toggle, and works the same in the new PCU Option Menu too so if you have enabled Autoboot on one machine and put the stick in another then you have to press CTRL-7 twice to enable it on that machine cause the script thinks its enabled already.
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Post by spannernick on Mar 1, 2021 11:35:25 GMT
Fixed the problem with the PCU Option Menu and Yaft behind the carousel, thanks as always goes to jj0 for giving me a example code, now I can kill Yaft and it don't close the script only kills Yaft so the script is still running in the background so it don't kill Firmware Mode... or any option that's run in the menu where I have to kill Yaft.. So now its getting closer to release.. just fixing some other things that are bugging me and then I will release PCUv1.3.2.. maybe today... |
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Post by vic2020ian on Mar 1, 2021 13:05:58 GMT
Well done Nick, JJ0
Will be happy to test for you after 6 tonight before release if needed.
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Post by spannernick on Mar 1, 2021 18:14:13 GMT
PCUv1.3.2 is now Uploading to the PCU Zipped folder now... |
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Post by vic2020ian on Mar 1, 2021 18:22:15 GMT
...and on it's way down ;-)
Any special instructions like disable autoboot before using?
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Post by max2007 on Mar 1, 2021 18:59:41 GMT
PCUv1.3.2 is now Uploading to the PCU Zipped folder now... Hello in the Vic 20 games section there is something wrong ... |
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Post by vic2020ian on Mar 1, 2021 19:25:27 GMT
Well done Nick and JJ0 - great new features. Thank you.
What is the Restore key to quit Midnight Commander on a PC keyboard?
I managed to sort of crash the Midnight commander by pressing F10 and return so I just powered off.
I could not get any of the Vice menu items to load - does the message about Pet not working mean all Vice is not currently working?
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Post by spannernick on Mar 1, 2021 19:48:37 GMT
Weird Vice works on my THEVIC20 via the menu, I still need to work on MC, but just wanted to release it.
If you redownload it now PET should work
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Post by vic2020ian on Mar 1, 2021 20:27:43 GMT
Doh - I was on my C64 Mini
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Post by spannernick on Mar 1, 2021 20:31:28 GMT
You can with PCU Game Manager, there is a version of PCU with it included...? |
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Post by oocozyoo on Mar 1, 2021 21:12:27 GMT
PCUv1.3.2 is now Uploading to the PCU Zipped folder now... Thanks for the update I`ll download and test it |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 21:28:06 GMT
menu option 5 vic20 H-R does not work properly. When I choose this option I get 4-vic20-0-G  |
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Post by oocozyoo on Mar 1, 2021 21:32:37 GMT
menu option 5 vic20 H-R does not work properly. When I choose this option I get 4-vic20-0-G I Think nick has copied them over twice........totally missing H to R..under pressure nick lol |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 21:38:21 GMT
There is also no VIC-20 S to Z ? is this correct ?
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Post by spannernick on Mar 1, 2021 22:41:23 GMT
It was missing libs files for vice to work on the mini so now its work ok, just have to update the download, I let you know when I have.
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