Post by gurce on Apr 25, 2018 11:51:29 GMT
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AB85
I hope the closure of the forum isn't a way of shying away from updates
and the firmware by the development team. Don't want to be a pessimist but
I am a bit wary.
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Goclastninja
[2]AB85 im not on any of that facecock bullS**t or anything,wtf is this
all about.....low move from the devs,how do I hear about updates or
anything...bang out of order,they can shove their facecock fan groups up
their hole
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THEC64
[3]AB85 updates and new firmware will continue of course [4]😊[5]ðŸ‘
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THEC64
[6]Goclastninja the Facebook page does not require joining to read it ?
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AB85
I imagine it's so they can control what can be seen and not have to
communicate with us as much or indeed respond. Their own Facebook page has
updates but not everybody wants to hand over control to databook.
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Archon
Thats just ridiculous.. This whole thing takes a bad direction....
Well. Just dug out my old 128 D and got myself some new cables and ordered
Sam´s Journey
Cartridge Edition..
Have fun everybody ! Original Commodore Hardware forever !
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Jimbo
W . T . F ...... Just as it was getting very interesting on modding the
C64 they shut the Forum down.
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jj_0
Call me naive, but I buy into the explanation. If you don't have to
moderate an ever-growing forum you can spend more time working on other
stuff.
Checking for updates is easy, just check the updates page once in a while.
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fatgit
Or too much hacking going on, what with adding new games and serial ports
etc...
such a shame.
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tomxp411
The reasons they gave make sense. Not a lot of people will sign up for and
use the forum, but clicking "like" on Facebook takes less than a second.
And, quite frankly, the Facebook group really is more active than the
forums here.
There's also the issue of maintenance. It costs time and money to run this
forum, keep software up to date, and keep the trolls at bay. I've run a
few forums and discussion groups, so I know all about that bit of fun.
(also about how easily most forum software gets hacked, costing days and
weeks to rebuild it.)
I'm also a little disappointed, but it does make sense when considered
objectively.
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saramakos
My problem is the signal to noise on FB is far higher than here. I come
here to read about the C64 and that is what I get. I /like/ having a
dedicated site.
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RetroBiker
[7]saramakos My problem is the signal to noise on FB is far higher than
here.
I agree. And, unless I am a complete ignoramus, a Facebook group has no
structure so following interesting content, catching up on your favourite
threads and finding information is almost impossible.
Lemon64 is an option, but a bit overwhelming compared to accessing Mini
information here. Personally, I prefer smaller, focussed communities.
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Gurce
I'm also saddened by the closure. If there's any consensus on where the
bulk of us want to migrate to, I'm happy to follow along. Someone
mentioned lemon64? I'm fine with that.
Aah, yup, jj made a post there:
[8]http://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=824501#824501
It's in the 'General' section, so who knows, maybe the moderators of that
forum might consider making a 'C64 mini' section for us?
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Jammet
How much moderation was necessary to maintain this forum? I'd imagine
you'd spend about about one business hour each day.
You could always try to find someone willing to do the moderation for you,
too. Keep topics tidy and on-topic.
Honestly, when I first saw this forum, I felt relief. That was a big step
forward for you. The entire year before the forum, your company, the
strange fundraiser campaign, and what few bits and pieces were made
public, raised so many red flags for me, that RG remained nothing but a
nebulous something that could very well also just have been a scammer. Now
I know you have made a product and sold it, very successfully I might add.
I'd advise to not retreat back into that isolation. There ought to be an
official line of communication, and it's bad for business to rely on
external platforms for everything. I've appreciated the new openness,
despite the rare occurrence of you posting on your own forums. If you do
not want to deal with people communicating as they have been, please find
someone to moderate it in your interests.
Closing this forum cannot be a good idea.
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Darbyram
Can anyone post on the Facebook site? All I see is posts from the maker's
of this unit. Bugger all of interest on it.
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tomxp411
[9]Darbyram There may be several Facebook groups; the one I've been
following is [10]https://www.facebook.com/groups/209280506324242/
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Moz333
Bit of a shame. Dont do the Facebook or social media thing myself, never
have so this was handy for a quick browse on whats going on and picking up
a few tips/hacks etc. Might be a bit cynical but cant help but think they
are distancing themselves from any negative comments, or modding quirks
under this site name. This forum could have grown nicely and it wouldnt
have not been difficult to recruit a handful of volunteer mods from
regulars on here..
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Darbyram
[11]tomxp411 yes I am well aware of the sites as I am on them. It is the
main one that bothers me with lack of anything other than reviews..
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spinal
I'm not on facebook and I'm not joining. So if I miss out on any and all
future info regarding the mini then so be it. It takes nothing to moderate
a forum, just do what most other forums do, ask a couple of regulars to be
mods, simple. Turning people away from the official website simply because
the company is too lazy to keep in contact with the customers is a very
bad move in my opinion.
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THEC64
[12]spinal fan forums and official company forums are different beasts
with regards to what can be discussed, plus at this point of our companies
journey our resources are better spent on improvements on the products
[13]ðŸ‘
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MIK
WTF! If this is true...
Starting to think I may not even bother buying the two TheC64 Joysticks I
have on pre-order that are supposed to be released on Friday... No loss to
me as I was only getting them to support the cause regardless if they are
not fit for purpose.
I'll have to hunt someone down with a Facebook account and have a nose,
[14]🔫 "I need your clothes, boots and your Commodore..."
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MIK
The official word is that the forum is to close this Friday...
[15]https://www.facebook.com/THEC64computer/
It is with regret we have decided to close the THEC64 forum on our site
www.thec64.com this coming Friday. With the expanding fan Facebook
groups we have decided to concentrate our resources on other social
media platforms such as those rather than spread ourselves too thin. We
wanted to give you all time to copy any threads over to other groups
before Friday. We also wanted to thank you all for your contributions on
that forum but with members in their thousands in the other groups as
opposed to that one logically this makes more sense. We hope you all can
understand our reasons, as we wish to spend more time on improvements to
the hardware and firmware! Thanks as ever to you all for your support.
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Goclastninja
Can we start our own forum up?
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THEC64
[16]Goclastninja yes !
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Closure
Toen
The message board has been short lived. I have come to rely on it for tips
about best use of the mini 64. I fear that upgrades may be long awaited.
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THEC64
[2]Goclastninja yes !
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THEC64
[3]AB85 updates and new firmware will continue of course [4]😊[5]ðŸ‘
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THEC64
[6]Goclastninja the Facebook page does not require joining to read it ?
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ZeHa
"it is with regret" -> if you regret it, don't close it
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Jammet
At least, please consider using the blog (on Facebook, if it has to be
that) more extensively than you have been, in the past? Certainly we do
not require a daily flow sweet nothings, but it would be good to avoid
long stretches of silence. Anything that goes in-depth is much
appreciated.
Like interviews that answer questions posed by your audience. Even
technical ones. And I hope you appreciate this kind of feedback as well.
Let me assure you, you get the best kind of feedback right on your very
own forums. Where people invest time and energy to contact you, without
also making a bit of a show of it, like they typically will, on social
sites. On those, you will see numerous customers who want technical
support. On here, you GET technical support. And by that, I mean from your
customers, trying to help you. That may sound a little pompous, but it's
an observation I find to be very true.
It's a shame to see this go away. So - whatever you do, try to show more
presence and interactivity, if you at all can.
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THEC64
[7]spinal fan forums and official company forums are different beasts with
regards to what can be discussed, plus at this point of our companies
journey our resources are better spent on improvements on the products
[8]ðŸ‘
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chrisa1981
If I set a forum up can I promote it on here? looking into it at the
moment
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Gurce
[9]chrisa1981 I was pondering doing the same thing, my host offered a
one-click install for a bulletin board system. I gave it a try, it
installed ok, I just don't know a great deal about configuring and
administering it as yet.
Still, if you've got the drive and momentum to do it yourself, no worries,
don't let my efforts stop you [10]
One thing I will press on with though it trying to preserve all forum
threads here. I'm writing a bit of python code that will hopefully scrape
through all the contents and back it all up tonight.
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chrisa1981
Im trying to do it a simple way by looking at Wix and others at the moment
to see how quickly this may be to set up, I dont mind chipping in a few
quid a month hosting, its just making time to set up something to start
off with.
Im not a fan of facebook or twitter etc and the facebook page ive seen is
just spam posting review videos tbh
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Closure
AB85
I hope the closure of the forum isn't a way of shying away from updates
and the firmware by the development team. Don't want to be a pessimist but
I am a bit wary.
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Goclastninja
[2]AB85 im not on any of that facecock bullS**t or anything,wtf is this
all about.....low move from the devs,how do I hear about updates or
anything...bang out of order,they can shove their facecock fan groups up
their hole
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THEC64
[3]AB85 updates and new firmware will continue of course [4]😊[5]ðŸ‘
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THEC64
[6]Goclastninja the Facebook page does not require joining to read it ?
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AB85
I imagine it's so they can control what can be seen and not have to
communicate with us as much or indeed respond. Their own Facebook page has
updates but not everybody wants to hand over control to databook.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Archon
Thats just ridiculous.. This whole thing takes a bad direction....
Well. Just dug out my old 128 D and got myself some new cables and ordered
Sam´s Journey
Cartridge Edition..
Have fun everybody ! Original Commodore Hardware forever !
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Jimbo
W . T . F ...... Just as it was getting very interesting on modding the
C64 they shut the Forum down.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
jj_0
Call me naive, but I buy into the explanation. If you don't have to
moderate an ever-growing forum you can spend more time working on other
stuff.
Checking for updates is easy, just check the updates page once in a while.
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fatgit
Or too much hacking going on, what with adding new games and serial ports
etc...
such a shame.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
tomxp411
The reasons they gave make sense. Not a lot of people will sign up for and
use the forum, but clicking "like" on Facebook takes less than a second.
And, quite frankly, the Facebook group really is more active than the
forums here.
There's also the issue of maintenance. It costs time and money to run this
forum, keep software up to date, and keep the trolls at bay. I've run a
few forums and discussion groups, so I know all about that bit of fun.
(also about how easily most forum software gets hacked, costing days and
weeks to rebuild it.)
I'm also a little disappointed, but it does make sense when considered
objectively.
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saramakos
My problem is the signal to noise on FB is far higher than here. I come
here to read about the C64 and that is what I get. I /like/ having a
dedicated site.
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RetroBiker
[7]saramakos My problem is the signal to noise on FB is far higher than
here.
I agree. And, unless I am a complete ignoramus, a Facebook group has no
structure so following interesting content, catching up on your favourite
threads and finding information is almost impossible.
Lemon64 is an option, but a bit overwhelming compared to accessing Mini
information here. Personally, I prefer smaller, focussed communities.
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Gurce
I'm also saddened by the closure. If there's any consensus on where the
bulk of us want to migrate to, I'm happy to follow along. Someone
mentioned lemon64? I'm fine with that.
Aah, yup, jj made a post there:
[8]http://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=824501#824501
It's in the 'General' section, so who knows, maybe the moderators of that
forum might consider making a 'C64 mini' section for us?
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Jammet
How much moderation was necessary to maintain this forum? I'd imagine
you'd spend about about one business hour each day.
You could always try to find someone willing to do the moderation for you,
too. Keep topics tidy and on-topic.
Honestly, when I first saw this forum, I felt relief. That was a big step
forward for you. The entire year before the forum, your company, the
strange fundraiser campaign, and what few bits and pieces were made
public, raised so many red flags for me, that RG remained nothing but a
nebulous something that could very well also just have been a scammer. Now
I know you have made a product and sold it, very successfully I might add.
I'd advise to not retreat back into that isolation. There ought to be an
official line of communication, and it's bad for business to rely on
external platforms for everything. I've appreciated the new openness,
despite the rare occurrence of you posting on your own forums. If you do
not want to deal with people communicating as they have been, please find
someone to moderate it in your interests.
Closing this forum cannot be a good idea.
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Darbyram
Can anyone post on the Facebook site? All I see is posts from the maker's
of this unit. Bugger all of interest on it.
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tomxp411
[9]Darbyram There may be several Facebook groups; the one I've been
following is [10]https://www.facebook.com/groups/209280506324242/
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Moz333
Bit of a shame. Dont do the Facebook or social media thing myself, never
have so this was handy for a quick browse on whats going on and picking up
a few tips/hacks etc. Might be a bit cynical but cant help but think they
are distancing themselves from any negative comments, or modding quirks
under this site name. This forum could have grown nicely and it wouldnt
have not been difficult to recruit a handful of volunteer mods from
regulars on here..
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Darbyram
[11]tomxp411 yes I am well aware of the sites as I am on them. It is the
main one that bothers me with lack of anything other than reviews..
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spinal
I'm not on facebook and I'm not joining. So if I miss out on any and all
future info regarding the mini then so be it. It takes nothing to moderate
a forum, just do what most other forums do, ask a couple of regulars to be
mods, simple. Turning people away from the official website simply because
the company is too lazy to keep in contact with the customers is a very
bad move in my opinion.
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THEC64
[12]spinal fan forums and official company forums are different beasts
with regards to what can be discussed, plus at this point of our companies
journey our resources are better spent on improvements on the products
[13]ðŸ‘
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MIK
WTF! If this is true...
Starting to think I may not even bother buying the two TheC64 Joysticks I
have on pre-order that are supposed to be released on Friday... No loss to
me as I was only getting them to support the cause regardless if they are
not fit for purpose.
I'll have to hunt someone down with a Facebook account and have a nose,
[14]🔫 "I need your clothes, boots and your Commodore..."
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MIK
The official word is that the forum is to close this Friday...
[15]https://www.facebook.com/THEC64computer/
It is with regret we have decided to close the THEC64 forum on our site
www.thec64.com this coming Friday. With the expanding fan Facebook
groups we have decided to concentrate our resources on other social
media platforms such as those rather than spread ourselves too thin. We
wanted to give you all time to copy any threads over to other groups
before Friday. We also wanted to thank you all for your contributions on
that forum but with members in their thousands in the other groups as
opposed to that one logically this makes more sense. We hope you all can
understand our reasons, as we wish to spend more time on improvements to
the hardware and firmware! Thanks as ever to you all for your support.
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Goclastninja
Can we start our own forum up?
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THEC64
[16]Goclastninja yes !
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Toen
The message board has been short lived. I have come to rely on it for tips
about best use of the mini 64. I fear that upgrades may be long awaited.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
THEC64
[2]Goclastninja yes !
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THEC64
[3]AB85 updates and new firmware will continue of course [4]😊[5]ðŸ‘
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
THEC64
[6]Goclastninja the Facebook page does not require joining to read it ?
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ZeHa
"it is with regret" -> if you regret it, don't close it
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Jammet
At least, please consider using the blog (on Facebook, if it has to be
that) more extensively than you have been, in the past? Certainly we do
not require a daily flow sweet nothings, but it would be good to avoid
long stretches of silence. Anything that goes in-depth is much
appreciated.
Like interviews that answer questions posed by your audience. Even
technical ones. And I hope you appreciate this kind of feedback as well.
Let me assure you, you get the best kind of feedback right on your very
own forums. Where people invest time and energy to contact you, without
also making a bit of a show of it, like they typically will, on social
sites. On those, you will see numerous customers who want technical
support. On here, you GET technical support. And by that, I mean from your
customers, trying to help you. That may sound a little pompous, but it's
an observation I find to be very true.
It's a shame to see this go away. So - whatever you do, try to show more
presence and interactivity, if you at all can.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
THEC64
[7]spinal fan forums and official company forums are different beasts with
regards to what can be discussed, plus at this point of our companies
journey our resources are better spent on improvements on the products
[8]ðŸ‘
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chrisa1981
If I set a forum up can I promote it on here? looking into it at the
moment
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Gurce
[9]chrisa1981 I was pondering doing the same thing, my host offered a
one-click install for a bulletin board system. I gave it a try, it
installed ok, I just don't know a great deal about configuring and
administering it as yet.
Still, if you've got the drive and momentum to do it yourself, no worries,
don't let my efforts stop you [10]
One thing I will press on with though it trying to preserve all forum
threads here. I'm writing a bit of python code that will hopefully scrape
through all the contents and back it all up tonight.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
chrisa1981
Im trying to do it a simple way by looking at Wix and others at the moment
to see how quickly this may be to set up, I dont mind chipping in a few
quid a month hosting, its just making time to set up something to start
off with.
Im not a fan of facebook or twitter etc and the facebook page ive seen is
just spam posting review videos tbh
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